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    Question Ireland N2C Neptune Flying Boat

    I am attempting to get any information I can on the subject aircraft.
    I would like to build one as there is a bit of a family history tied to
    the aircraft. A search of the internet has so far proven futile so any
    assistance would be apprecitated.

    Ed King

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    Got a pic??? ...Or is that part of what you are looking for?

    John

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    You should check out the scale forum on RCGroups.

    Mark Rittinger posted some free plans for one (see attached).

    There's also a short thread on Dave Plummer's 108" span Neptune.

    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=neptune

    Tom
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    Aha... I just noticed the flying boat part of your post, and realize you're not talking about the Lockheed Neptune...

    my bad.

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    Not much but I did find what airfoil it used.
    Ireland N-2C Neptune
    Root airfoil:Curtiss C-72
    Tip airfoil:Curtiss C-72

    Also... there were 3 models
    Ireland Neptune
    Ireland N-2B Neptune
    Ireland N-2C Neptune

    I did manage to find a picture online but the title said Ireland N1b. I don't know if this is a completely different aircraft or just a typo. Anyway.. here it is.
    irelandN1b.jpg

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    After a bit of research... I think my previous post is actually a N1b from 1927.
    The smithsonian national air and space museum directory lists the following aircraft for Ireland Aircraft Co.


    Designer - Manufacturer Name: Ireland
    :
    Ireland Aircraft Co
    G. S. Ireland
    Amphibions Inc
    Ireland Aircraft Inc
    Privateer
    Manufacturer Location: New York -- Garden City
    Produced Models:
    Ireland Comet (Curtiss Oriole Fuselage with Ireland High-Lift Wings)
    Ireland Meteor
    Ireland N-2 (N2) Family (Amphibions N-2 Neptune)
    Ireland N-2-B (N2b)(Amphibions N-2-B Neptune)
    Ireland N-2-C (N2c)(Amphibions N-2-C Neptune)
    Ireland Privateer
    Ireland Privateer P1
    Ireland Privateer P2a
    Ireland Privateer P3b
    Ireland Proposed Flying Boat for Submarines
    Last edited by Sev Fontaine; 09-05-2007 at 03:03 PM.

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    Default Found some more info.

    Here is a link I found with some specs and a picture.
    http://www.aerofiles.com/_i.html
    Just go to the page and scroll down to Ireland, Amphibions
    ireland-n2c.jpg
    N-2C Neptune 1929 (ATC 248) = 5pCBAm; 450hp P&W Wasp pusher; span: 40'0" length: 31'0" load: 1566# v: 120/103/48 range: 340. $27,500, $23,000 in 1930; POP: 10 [NC86K, NC89K/90K, NC182M/187M], plus 1 conversion of 2-B [NC107H].


    Note that the N2C is a modification on the 2-B model so the pictures for the 2-B might be helpful as well.

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    hehe, getting any work done today, Sev?

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    Thanks Sev! You have managed to get further than I have. Gee, all I need now are some 3-views and cross sections...

    Aircraft NC183M was flown to British Guiana in 1934 by a broke Art Williams, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_James_Williams. My Step Grandfather, Edward Sill, bankrolled him and a second aviator, Harry Wendt, to remain in British Guiana. A second flying boat was procured. I believe that the pair provided Search and Rescue services during the war. Those aircraft and a couple of DC-3s formed the start of the Guyanese national airline.

    The three of them went on a search in the Amazon jungle for a downed aviator, Paul Refern, in 1935. http://www.capnbilly.com/redfern.htm

    From a recent newpaper article appearing in the The State, Columbia SC:


    "To mark the 80th anniversary of Redfern‚??s flight, aviation and history buffs, relatives and other interested people gathered Saturday at the State Museum to learn more about the life and puzzling disappearance of Redfern...
    Recently, a silent, black-and-white film surfaced showing three men ‚?? Edward Sill of Guiana and two aviators, Art Williams and Harry Went ‚?? hiking through Brazilian jungles looking for evidence of Redfern.
    The sojourn took place in 1935, when the three decided they would try to put to rest rumors they‚??d heard about the missing Redfern. They wondered if perhaps he‚??d lived through the crash and was living in a nearby village.
    Natives took them to a village in Guiana, where an elder told them ‚?? through a translator ‚?? that he‚??d rescued Redfern alive, with two broken legs, from the crash site.
    After spending the night with the natives, the three men woke to find the entire village empty. Rations were low so they turned back. The curious travelers never saw Redfern or his plane."

    Ed

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    Default Old Pictures of the Ireland flying boat

    Ed,

    Are you still looking for pics of that Ireland flying boat?

    I have a couple, one with Art Williams in it.

    Bob

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